{"id":10708,"date":"2020-10-23T14:02:01","date_gmt":"2020-10-23T18:02:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/?p=10708"},"modified":"2020-10-27T18:18:37","modified_gmt":"2020-10-27T22:18:37","slug":"sarah-lawson-and-lee-norton","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/sarah-lawson-and-lee-norton\/","title":{"rendered":"Sarah Lawson and Lee Norton"},"content":{"rendered":"<!--powerpress_player--><div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_2123\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-10708-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/interview\/sarahlawson.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/interview\/sarahlawson.mp3\">https:\/\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/interview\/sarahlawson.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/interviews-by-brainard-carey\/id1468502583?mt=2&amp;ls=1\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_itunes\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Apple Podcasts\" rel=\"nofollow\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/5ZxsN79E1W6VJOjQF9GNuZ\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/tunein.com\/radio\/Interviews-by-Brainard-Carey-p1236598\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_tunein\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on TuneIn\" rel=\"nofollow\">TuneIn<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/feeds.podcastmirror.com\/interviews-by-brainard\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/goo.gl\/xSQrKY\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Click here to  join mailing list\" rel=\"nofollow\">Click here to  join mailing list<\/a><\/p><div>Sarah Lawson\u00a0is a writ<img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-10727 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Sarah-Lawson.png?resize=119%2C128&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"119\" height=\"128\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Sarah-Lawson.png?resize=279%2C300&amp;ssl=1 279w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Sarah-Lawson.png?resize=951%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 951w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Sarah-Lawson.png?resize=768%2C827&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Sarah-Lawson.png?resize=696%2C749&amp;ssl=1 696w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Sarah-Lawson.png?resize=390%2C420&amp;ssl=1 390w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Sarah-Lawson.png?w=1022&amp;ssl=1 1022w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 119px) 100vw, 119px\" \/>er and editor based in Brooklyn. They are a member of the Ugly Duckling Presse editorial collective, and act as UDP&#8217;s Publicity Director.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-10738 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Lee-Norton_cropped.png?resize=146%2C152&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"146\" height=\"152\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Lee-Norton_cropped.png?resize=288%2C300&amp;ssl=1 288w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Lee-Norton_cropped.png?resize=768%2C799&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Lee-Norton_cropped.png?resize=696%2C724&amp;ssl=1 696w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Lee-Norton_cropped.png?resize=404%2C420&amp;ssl=1 404w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Lee-Norton_cropped.png?w=977&amp;ssl=1 977w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 146px) 100vw, 146px\" \/>Lee Norton is a member of the Ugly Duckling Presse Editorial Collective, where he also serves as the Development Director. He teaches composition and literature at Queens College CUNY, usually with a focus on the history and rhetoric of the life sciences, theories of genre, 20th-century fiction, and contemporary poetry, in some combination. He earned a PhD in English and Comparative Literature at UNC-Chapel Hill; his critical work has appeared in <i>Occasions<\/i>; his poetry, in\u00a0<i>Ohio Edit<\/i>, <i>Drunken Boat<\/i>, <i>Supermachine<\/i>, and several other magazines.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Ugly Duckling Presse is a nonprofit publisher for poetry, translation, experimental nonfiction, performance texts, and books by artists. Through the efforts of a volunteer editorial collective, UDP was transformed from a 1990s zine into a mission-driven small press that has published more than 300 titles to date, and produced countless prints and ephemera.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>UDP favors emerging, international, and \u201cforgotten\u201d writers, and its books, chapbooks, artist\u2019s books, broadsides, and periodicals often contain handmade elements, calling attention to the labor and history of bookmaking.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>UDP is committed to keeping its publications in circulation with our online archive of out-of-print chapbooks and our digital proofs program. In all of its activities, UDP endeavors to create an experience of art free of expectation, coercion, and utility.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><a href=\"https:\/\/uglyducklingpresse.org\/subscribe\/2020-pamphlet-series-subscription\/\">Here<\/a> is a link to the pamphlet subscription mentioned in the interview and the <a href=\"https:\/\/uglyducklingpresse.org\/subscribe\/\">regular subscription is here<\/a>.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>And <a href=\"https:\/\/medium.com\/ugly-duckling-presse\/udps-2020-pamphlet-series-20-essays-for-2020-b70cbba96419\">here<\/a> is some more writing on the reasoning \/ history that went into doing the pamphlet series, in the words of editor Daniel Owen.<\/div>\n<div>\n<figure id=\"attachment_10728\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-10728\" style=\"width: 640px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-10728 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/SovietTexts.jpg?resize=640%2C694&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"694\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/SovietTexts-scaled.jpg?resize=944%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 944w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/SovietTexts-scaled.jpg?resize=277%2C300&amp;ssl=1 277w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/SovietTexts-scaled.jpg?resize=768%2C833&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/SovietTexts-scaled.jpg?resize=1417%2C1536&amp;ssl=1 1417w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/SovietTexts-scaled.jpg?resize=1889%2C2048&amp;ssl=1 1889w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/SovietTexts-scaled.jpg?resize=696%2C755&amp;ssl=1 696w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/SovietTexts-scaled.jpg?resize=1068%2C1158&amp;ssl=1 1068w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/SovietTexts-scaled.jpg?resize=387%2C420&amp;ssl=1 387w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/SovietTexts-scaled.jpg?w=2088&amp;ssl=1 2088w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-10728\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Soviet Texts, the first representative selected volume of poetry by Dmitri Alexandrovich Prigov, a leading writer of the late Soviet and early post-Soviet era and one of the founders of Moscow Conceptualism.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<figure id=\"attachment_10729\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-10729\" style=\"width: 640px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-10729 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/2020-Pamphlets-Batch1.jpg?resize=640%2C675&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"675\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/2020-Pamphlets-Batch1-scaled.jpg?resize=971%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 971w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/2020-Pamphlets-Batch1-scaled.jpg?resize=285%2C300&amp;ssl=1 285w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/2020-Pamphlets-Batch1-scaled.jpg?resize=768%2C810&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/2020-Pamphlets-Batch1-scaled.jpg?resize=1457%2C1536&amp;ssl=1 1457w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/2020-Pamphlets-Batch1-scaled.jpg?resize=1943%2C2048&amp;ssl=1 1943w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/2020-Pamphlets-Batch1-scaled.jpg?resize=696%2C734&amp;ssl=1 696w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/2020-Pamphlets-Batch1-scaled.jpg?resize=1068%2C1126&amp;ssl=1 1068w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/2020-Pamphlets-Batch1-scaled.jpg?resize=398%2C420&amp;ssl=1 398w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/2020-Pamphlets-Batch1-scaled.jpg?w=1392&amp;ssl=1 1392w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/2020-Pamphlets-Batch1-scaled.jpg?w=2088&amp;ssl=1 2088w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-10729\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The first batch of the 2020 Pamphlet Series, with work from Simon Cutts, Sergio Chejfec, Don Mee Choi, Steven Zultanski, and Aleksandr Skidan.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<figure id=\"attachment_10730\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-10730\" style=\"width: 640px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-10730 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/OneSmallSaga-CloseChaplet.jpg?resize=640%2C480&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/OneSmallSaga-CloseChaplet-scaled.jpg?resize=1024%2C768&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/OneSmallSaga-CloseChaplet-scaled.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/OneSmallSaga-CloseChaplet-scaled.jpg?resize=768%2C576&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/OneSmallSaga-CloseChaplet-scaled.jpg?resize=1536%2C1152&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/OneSmallSaga-CloseChaplet-scaled.jpg?resize=2048%2C1536&amp;ssl=1 2048w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/OneSmallSaga-CloseChaplet-scaled.jpg?resize=80%2C60&amp;ssl=1 80w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/OneSmallSaga-CloseChaplet-scaled.jpg?resize=265%2C198&amp;ssl=1 265w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/OneSmallSaga-CloseChaplet-scaled.jpg?resize=696%2C522&amp;ssl=1 696w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/OneSmallSaga-CloseChaplet-scaled.jpg?resize=1068%2C801&amp;ssl=1 1068w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/OneSmallSaga-CloseChaplet-scaled.jpg?resize=560%2C420&amp;ssl=1 560w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/OneSmallSaga-CloseChaplet-scaled.jpg?w=1392&amp;ssl=1 1392w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-10730\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Bobbie Louise Hawkins&#8217; autobiographical novel One Small Saga; and Laura Riding&#8217;s first book of poetry, The Close Chaplet.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>https:\/\/museumofnonvisibleart.com\/interviews\/interview\/sarahlawson.mp3Subscribe: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | TuneIn | RSS | Click here to join mailing listSarah Lawson\u00a0is a writer and editor based in Brooklyn. 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